What do I tell people who think that eating meat is not in line with the non-aggression principle?

daisysnotebook:

I’m a vegetarian myself, though I’ve never considered that part of my moral code. I do it because a meatless diet has made me healthier. But these people argue that, since animals have to be killed for food, if you eat meat, you’re “encouraging” aggression against animals. Please enlighten me. Tell me what you think. My roommate is libertarian and vegan, and she believes eating animals violates the non-aggression axiom.

when people eat meat they aren’t just “encouraging” the mistreatment and slaughter of animals (which i think is pretty bad in itself), they’re actively engaging in a system that profits from the death and, often, torture of animals. if this is permitted by the non-aggression axiom, then it seems like a pretty aggressive principle of non-aggression.

a lot of people like to think that humans are different from other animals in an essential way. we are more “intelligent” than most, if not all, known organisms, but why does that mean it’s okay to kill those less “intelligent”? “well, animals eat other animals too,” i often hear, but this hardly helps the original point that humans are somehow more special than other animals (if in no way other than that the NAP applies to them and not other animals). furthermore, if intelligence is to act as this essential difference between humans and other animals, why reject a healthy, cruelty free, and delicious eating preference (remember, that’s all this is guys; it’s just an eating preference) made possible by human ingenuity?

now, if we forget axioms and other rationalizations people offer for eating meat (i already have), it boils down to people just not wanting to not eat meat. it’s something that they like, and they’d rather not go without it. fine. but don’t cloak this [revolting] preference in the smokey veils of morality or ideology. the same goes for the faithful of all Dieties.

Notes

  1. jerrybear answered: Each person must make that decision for himself or herself. Perhaps later generations will consider us savages for eating meat. Who knows?
  2. tormentas answered: I’m not a vegetarian myself, but I see a slippery slope fallacy there. For starters, cows feel pain, fungi don’t.
  3. continuum answered: Fuck that. Animals are meant for consumption if we so choose. That said, they should be raised, and slaughtered humanely as possible.
  4. johnr48 answered: animals do not subscribe to any such axiom!
  5. tentativetill reblogged this from man-hastam and added:
    My faith in my beliefs has been restored. I will sleep well tonight.
  6. conza answered: conza.tumblr.com/tagged/…
  7. descourageux answered: By phredosophy’s argument, one couldn’t do anything. One can’t build a house without felling trees or harvesting stone. Is this aggression?
  8. siomnesegonon answered: Simple. She does not know the hierarchy in the Creation.
  9. theartofconfusion answered: As omnivores, it is entirely natural for us to eat meat in order to sustain ourselves. Calling the food cycle “aggression” is just absurd.
  10. phredology answered: Agression isn’t not aggression because it’s done to non-sentient beings. A punch is still a punch no matter what you aim at.